Comments on: Monday Morning Cup of Coffey https://213hoops.com/monday-morning-cup-of-coffey/ L.A. Clippers News and Analysis Mon, 24 Jan 2022 23:38:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.3.20 By: chogokin https://213hoops.com/monday-morning-cup-of-coffey/#comment-30944 Mon, 24 Jan 2022 23:38:38 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=12205#comment-30944 Good point on the dead ball foul for Jokic – hadn’t thought about that aspect, and the non-basketball play aspect is definitely important. I was mainly focused on the motivation aspect though – Jokic was a violent retaliation, whereas Allen was the initiator in this instance.

Either way though, we’re splitting hairs – both plays were dirty af, and I agree that the NBA should’ve suspended both of them for more than just a single game.

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By: Lucas Hann https://213hoops.com/monday-morning-cup-of-coffey/#comment-30943 Mon, 24 Jan 2022 23:14:54 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=12205#comment-30943 Grayson doesn’t really have an NBA rap sheet, to be fair. Should the NBA take dirty plays from 5 years ago at Duke into account? Where do you draw the line there?

And re: Morris/Jokic/Allen, Jokic’s was the only one that was a dead ball. Morris was committing a foul to stop a fast break–and threw a cheap shot while doing it. Allen was contesting a shot at the rim–and took an extra swipe to throw an airborne player to the floor dangerously.

Jokic wasn’t playing basketball when he hit Morris. That feels important.

I’d agree with dhpat that I would have given Allen 5 games. I also would have given Jokic 5 games at the time. I’m cool with the two incidents, despite being different, being gagued as roughly equal. One is a reckless/dirty play, the other is a violent non-basketball play. I don’t love the idea of handing out more/longer suspensions generally but I do think legislating high-injury-risk plays out of the game is something that defenses should be able to adapt to.

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By: chogokin https://213hoops.com/monday-morning-cup-of-coffey/#comment-30942 Mon, 24 Jan 2022 23:01:14 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=12205#comment-30942 To be fair to Jokic, Kief very clearly initiated that incident w/ his own, lesser cheap shot to the ribs a second earlier – you probably shouldn’t turn your back on a large dude like that after intentionally elbowing him. Not saying what Jokic did was justified (it obviously wasn’t), but it felt less spontaneous than Grayson Allen’s umprompted takedown – especially given Allen’s history of dirty plays.

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By: dhpat https://213hoops.com/monday-morning-cup-of-coffey/#comment-30941 Mon, 24 Jan 2022 22:08:58 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=12205#comment-30941 Grayson Allen should have gotten a 5 game suspension. No play on ball, even though he has a long history for hard fouls. The same kind of suspension should be on Jokic for his cheap shot on Morris.

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By: lying dog-faced pony soldier https://213hoops.com/monday-morning-cup-of-coffey/#comment-30940 Mon, 24 Jan 2022 20:42:03 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=12205#comment-30940 Thanks Lucas, great stuff. What a fantastic NFL weekend that was. Grayson should stick to tripping people.

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