Comments for 213hoops.com https://213hoops.com L.A. Clippers News and Analysis Fri, 11 Sep 2026 16:29:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.3.23 Comment on TLTJTP: Clippers Get Crushed by NBA for Cap Circumvention by dhpat https://213hoops.com/tltjtp-clippers-get-crushed-by-nba-for-cap-circumvention/#comment-71648 Fri, 11 Sep 2026 16:29:44 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21691#comment-71648 Asked Grok about what Ballmer’s attorney could do in light of the DOJ opening an investigation:

GROK: The two primary documents that matter here are the NBA’s official September 2 release and the Clippers’ own words: the team statement plus David Kelley’s letter to Adam Silver. Those texts already define the bargaining space.
What the NBA actually said.
The league framed this as CBA circumvention, a “pattern of misconduct,” and “institutional and leadership failures.” Ballmer’s one-year suspension is tied to three specific claims: that he knowingly sought to help Leonard obtain off-court income opportunities; that he approved a business deal he knew was a precondition for Aspiration’s endorsement of Leonard; and that he failed to create conditions under which the organization followed circumvention rules. Silver’s quote treats the penalties as matching “flagrant violations.” That language is the reputational problem. The picks and the fine are the operational problem.
What the Clippers and Kelley actually said.
The team statement rejects the findings as a biased investigation built to a predetermined narrative, and it asserts that what the league said privately differs from what it announced publicly. Kelley’s letter is more precise. It claims Silver promised due process, fairness, and that the league would have to prove a violation with actual evidence rather than appearances. It says those promises were not kept. It says Ballmer funded an investigation that expanded far beyond the original Aspiration “funnel” allegation. Most important for a name-clearing strategy: Kelley writes that league counsel acknowledged in discussions that the league does not believe there was an agreement between the Clippers and Aspiration to funnel money to Leonard—yet the public report and release, issued with almost no notice and no chance to respond, “purport[] to conclude the exact opposite.” The letter also argues there is no existing rule that bars introductions to sponsors when a player or his representative asks for them, and that punishing that conduct is retroactive. It ends by reserving “every legal remedy.”
Those two records point to a settlement path that is not “we did nothing and you must retract everything.” It is: force the NBA to separate organizational process failure from Ballmer personally directed a secret pay scheme, and put that distinction in writing.
How Kelley can still move the terms while focusing on the names.

  1. Make the private-admission the price of peace.
  2. If league counsel really said there was no Clippers–Aspiration agreement to funnel money, Kelley can demand that the public record be aligned with that admission. The ask is not a press-conference apology. It is a short joint or NBA statement, or a revised summary, that the investigation did not find a secret side-payment conspiracy through Aspiration and that Ballmer was not found to have funded Leonard off the books. That is the core “clear the name” deliverable. Everything else is secondary.
  3. Split the findings.
  4. Silver already used “institutional and leadership failures.” Kelley can accept some version of failure-to-supervise, inadequate controls, or poorly documented introductions—conduct that can be fixed with a compliance monitor—while refusing the “knowingly” and “knew it was a precondition” language that brands Ballmer as the architect. A rewritten discipline letter that suspends or fines for governance failure, not for knowing circumvention, is how you trade severity for reputation.
  5. Trade draft capital and cash for language.
  6. The NBA has already spent its public capital on a historic penalty. Kelley’s leverage is that a lawsuit, even a weak one, keeps the “witch hunt / predetermined narrative / private-vs-public contradiction” in the file forever. A quieter deal can look like: fewer forfeited firsts, or staggered rather than five straight; a lower or redirected fine; a shorter personal suspension or a suspension that is described as recusal from basketball operations rather than a finding of knowing misconduct. In exchange, the Clippers stop litigating the process claims and accept monitoring. The name-clearing piece has to be explicit in the settlement paper, not implied.
  7. Use process defects as settlement leverage, not as the public war.
  8. Kelley’s letter already lists the process attacks: scope creep, $50 million cost, six law firms at the league’s demand, less than an hour’s notice, no chance to respond, pressure on third parties. Those are useful in a confidential demand letter because they raise the cost of a court fight the NBA would rather not have. They are less useful as a daily media campaign if the goal is to get Silver to walk back personal findings. The pressure works better in a closed room: fix the characterization or defend the process in discovery.
  9. Give Silver a face-saving frame he can live with.
  10. The commissioner’s statement is about protecting the bargained compensation system. Kelley can offer a package that still lets Silver say the cap rules were taken seriously: enhanced five-year monitoring, written protocols on player–sponsor introductions, personal recusal for a defined period, and an acknowledgment that the organization fell short of the standard Silver set. That lets the league keep “we enforced the system” while dropping or softening “Ballmer knowingly circumvented.” Other owners who routinely introduce stars to sponsors have an interest in that distinction even if they will not say so publicly.
  11. Keep the legal threat narrow and personal.
  12. A broad antitrust or “void all penalties” suit is hard and slow. A tighter action aimed at the public characterization of Ballmer—false light, contractual duty of fair process under the league documents, or an injunction limited to how the findings are described—puts the name issue at the center. The point of filing, or of a draft complaint shared privately, is to make the NBA choose between defending the “knowingly / precondition” sentences in court and rewriting them now.

The constraint is that the NBA’s official release already calls the violations flagrant and the penalties binding with the union. Kelley cannot erase that document. He can still push for a second document that controls how Ballmer and the franchise are described going forward: no finding of a funneling agreement with Aspiration, no finding that Ballmer personally designed off-book compensation, penalties recast as institutional failure plus future compliance. That is the only path that matches what both sides already put on paper.

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Comment on TLTJTP: Clippers Get Crushed by NBA for Cap Circumvention by osamu6238 https://213hoops.com/tltjtp-clippers-get-crushed-by-nba-for-cap-circumvention/#comment-71647 Fri, 11 Sep 2026 09:44:34 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21691#comment-71647 I wonder how this federal investigation changes anything. I’m worried it’s going to further delay the Kawhi deal, if the Raptors are at all thinking Kawhi might be implicit or get found guilty by DOJ. What are the chances Kawhi can’t play due to this investigation. OR would the NBA change their stance on a Kawhi suspension if found guilty in a court of law? Feels like pretty low chance that Kawhi would actually serve time, but at the same time, just another reason why the Raptors wouldn’t go through with the deal that was previously agreed to.

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Comment on 2027 NBA Preview: The Atlantic Division by osamu6238 https://213hoops.com/2027-nba-preview-the-atlantic-division/#comment-71646 Fri, 11 Sep 2026 09:40:46 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21694#comment-71646 I guess I just don’t know how hard they had been pushing to not give out that number before?

I really don’t think another player playing in it is a big deal until it’s officially retired. Who cares who else played in it, it’s just a number. I feel like teams give up their stars numbers all the time. Why do you think Jokic is wearing 15 (and Anthony Randolph before him). Pistons didn’t save Chauncey, Ben Wallace, Tayshaun, or Rip Hamilton’s numbers. Derek Fisher won 5 championships with the Lakers and they never saved his number. Lakers retired Wilt’s 13 and Michal Coopers’ 21 numbers but never saved their numbers. Who remembers PJ Dozier wearing 35 for the Thunder. Warriors didn’t save Baron Davis’ number. I love CP, but it’s not like he was a Clippers draft pick and stayed his whole career here. He might be the Clippers best player ever, but that’s more of a knock on the Clippers than a compliment to CP.

BUT if they had been saving it and telling guys not to choose it, and suddenly backed off of that stance, I think it just does show a level of pettiness. I would just be curious who/and when other players had requested it. Can’t think of at least a public instance of this. 3 is probably common enough you assume that some 2-way guys might’ve chosen it, but again, who knows. Some numbers just don’t get used for like 7-10 years out of pure coincidence.

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Comment on 2027 NBA Preview: The Atlantic Division by Morty CA https://213hoops.com/2027-nba-preview-the-atlantic-division/#comment-71645 Thu, 10 Sep 2026 23:25:10 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21694#comment-71645 I’m okay with Beal taking #3. Until CP3 gets his jersey retired in the rafters then no one can wear it, unless he’s like Kobe level. That’s how I see things of course.

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Comment on TLTJTP: Clippers Get Crushed by NBA for Cap Circumvention by JCplusULTRA https://213hoops.com/tltjtp-clippers-get-crushed-by-nba-for-cap-circumvention/#comment-71644 Thu, 10 Sep 2026 19:34:50 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21691#comment-71644 ]]> From what I understand, and correct me if I’m wrong:

  1. Kawhi signed a max deal as a FA to the Clippers
  2. Dennis/Kawhi asked for sponsorships AFTER signing and Clippers/Ballmer facilitated
  3. 2021 Kawhi opted-out and signed ANOTHER max deal
  4. 2024 Kawhi extended at a discount

So, with just 1, 2, and 3 there is certainly no cap circumvention. The Clippers took the full cap hit.

With 4, there might be some cap circumvention, but from what was said on the pod, there’s no evidence of any agreement.

The deal with Daktronics for 8 million and the 8 million discount Kawhi took in 2024 looks to be cap circumvention.

So, Pablo Torre didn’t even find the evidence of cap circumvention. The NBA’s lawyers found it with Daktronics.

But was it even intentional cap circumvention? It seems the Clippers just got used to paying Kawhi extra. This might actually be accidental. 🤣

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Comment on 2027 NBA Preview: The Atlantic Division by Based Freestyle https://213hoops.com/2027-nba-preview-the-atlantic-division/#comment-71643 Thu, 10 Sep 2026 19:19:01 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21694#comment-71643 Beal and CP3 are close friends. I would be surprised if Beal took #3 without getting Chris’ blessing for it first.

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Comment on 2027 NBA Preview: The Atlantic Division by chogokin https://213hoops.com/2027-nba-preview-the-atlantic-division/#comment-71642 Thu, 10 Sep 2026 17:28:49 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21694#comment-71642 Bradley Beal switching his number to #3 is a nice little shit cherry on top of this shit sundae of an offseason. I don’t even love CP3 the way I loved Blake Griffin or Deandre Jordan, but holy crap this franchise is beyond incompetent if they let this happen. We’re gonna let a dude who was awful for us when he played, who hasn’t played in like a year, and who’s only been on the team for 1 season use the number of a franchise legend?

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Comment on 2027 NBA Preview: The Atlantic Division by Thretch https://213hoops.com/2027-nba-preview-the-atlantic-division/#comment-71641 Thu, 10 Sep 2026 15:09:37 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21694#comment-71641 Yea, best case scenario is that the Bucks would heavily protect that pick (top 15 or 20). And I doubt they’d be interested in Beal (they’d ask for a younger player like Sanders or YKN).

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Comment on 2027 NBA Preview: The Atlantic Division by Oodypkt https://213hoops.com/2027-nba-preview-the-atlantic-division/#comment-71640 Thu, 10 Sep 2026 02:54:33 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21694#comment-71640 If T-Mann has Ben’s confidence, he’ll be a great role player every team wants.
I don’t hate PG much. He is who he is which is just not an ultimate winner we needed.
At least him, T-Mann and one leg of Kawhi dragged us to WCF. I appreciate him for that.
But I seriously believe we will turn it around this season, as hard as it seem.
I want to see our 3 rookies + Sanders + Yanic be on the court together. And the other vets on the team, be it Max/Dunn/DJJ/I-Jax/Rui or even DG, seems to be the type who will do whatever it takes to win.
BOLD claim for the new era => We will win 3 titles in the next 10 years. Mark My Words!!

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Comment on 2027 NBA Preview: The Atlantic Division by Robert Flom https://213hoops.com/2027-nba-preview-the-atlantic-division/#comment-71639 Thu, 10 Sep 2026 00:16:21 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21694#comment-71639 Normally Boston would be my least favorite team in this division but the Raptors and Kawhi have that honor this year.

Agreed on PG – the Clippers were made fun of at the time for letting him walk but it was absolutely the right call in hindsight. I don’t have him that high on my list of most hated Clippers, but I’m not fond of him either.

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