Comments for 213hoops.com https://213hoops.com L.A. Clippers News and Analysis Tue, 12 Aug 2025 21:02:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.3.19 Comment on Where Are They Now: Jawun Evans by Thretch https://213hoops.com/where-are-they-now-jawun-evans/#comment-65708 Tue, 12 Aug 2025 21:02:29 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21238#comment-65708 Cool list Osamu. My faves from here are Xavier Moon, Fortson (great hair!) and Prigioni

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Comment on Where Are They Now: Jawun Evans by mlslaw1 https://213hoops.com/where-are-they-now-jawun-evans/#comment-65707 Tue, 12 Aug 2025 18:51:00 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21238#comment-65707 Ask and ye shall receive. It was Yogi Farrell. Always liked his game. VERY competent pg and a good shooter. Sad that we couldn’t find a way to keep him.

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Comment on Where Are They Now: Jawun Evans by osamu6238 https://213hoops.com/where-are-they-now-jawun-evans/#comment-65706 Tue, 12 Aug 2025 18:34:05 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21238#comment-65706 Short Point Guard you say?

Daniel Ewing
Brevin Knight
Dan Dickau
Mike Taylor
JamesOn Curry
Courtney Fortson
Maalik Wayns
Pablo Prigioni
Derrick Walton Jr.
Yogi Ferrell
Xavier Moon
Patty Mills

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Comment on Where Are They Now: Jawun Evans by Oodypkt https://213hoops.com/where-are-they-now-jawun-evans/#comment-65705 Tue, 12 Aug 2025 16:00:28 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21238#comment-65705 Yogi Ferrell, maybe?

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Comment on Where Are They Now: Jawun Evans by mlslaw1 https://213hoops.com/where-are-they-now-jawun-evans/#comment-65704 Tue, 12 Aug 2025 04:36:24 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21238#comment-65704 Help me recall the name of the point guard the clips signed a long while ago — on the short side, good shooter, playmaker. I think he left for Europe. An American player. I liked him a lot. Just can’t recall his name.

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Comment on Where Are They Now: Jawun Evans by mlslaw1 https://213hoops.com/where-are-they-now-jawun-evans/#comment-65703 Tue, 12 Aug 2025 02:27:07 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21238#comment-65703 A complete bust of a playing career. Time to go into coaching maybe?

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Comment on Where Are They Now: Jawun Evans by pegitom https://213hoops.com/where-are-they-now-jawun-evans/#comment-65702 Tue, 12 Aug 2025 01:27:08 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21238#comment-65702 My son liked him because his name is Evan and Juwan’s last name is similar. There weren’t that many Evan’s in the league at the time (I can only remember Evan Turner). Yeah, that’s about it.

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Comment on Where Are They Now: Sindarius Thornwell by osamu6238 https://213hoops.com/where-are-they-now-sindarius-thornwell/#comment-65701 Tue, 12 Aug 2025 01:11:05 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21229#comment-65701 Yea, I think an underrated part of team building and coaching is the ability to establish roles and have the team understand and accept their role. Like in 2019, the team was heralded in the playoffs for everyone shining in their role and playing bigger than the sum of their parts. I think we saw similar buy in from everyone last season.

I think will really be a defining year for Ty Lue. He has a ton of pieces to work with and will really be on him to getting them all to buy in. I think Ty has had some up and downs in this role, but I think also some more difficult personalities in the past where it’s maybe been more of a challenge (Morris, Westbrook, PG, Bones, etc.).

We’ll see where he lands this year. I don’t know the personality of the likes of Collins and Beal, but I think should be at least a little easier the Morris and Westbrook. CP presents an interesting case of coming in saying the right things, but a very known ego and remains to be seen if he’ll really be able to turn down the intensity. And Bogi may be coming off being a superstar on the international stage, but will have to adjust to a much more limited role, or very well “should” be the 11th man out and may be pushed out of the rotation. When rotations shrink to like 8 or 9, then they’re dealing with a few of these guys not playing.

It might serve Ty best to bench a guy like Nico where you know he’ll buy in and be ready when called upon. Maybe limit the load on Kawhi and Harden, get the new guys regular minutes, hope the returning role players establish some real chemistry with the new guys.

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Comment on Where Are They Now: Jawun Evans by osamu6238 https://213hoops.com/where-are-they-now-jawun-evans/#comment-65700 Mon, 11 Aug 2025 19:13:46 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21238#comment-65700 I was never a big Jawun Evans guy. I mean he showed some steadiness as a “true” point guard, and some hope in a group of guys that we thought we might be rebuilding around after the Lob City Era (Evans, Thornwell, Ty Wallace, CJ Wilson, Brice Johnson, Jamil Wilson). But just too small and not a good enough shooter to stay in the league. Felt like after CP left, a lot of fans were searching for their next 6 foot tall, pass first PG, but obviously Evans couldn’t fill those shoes.

I was actually highest on Jamil Wilson, until his “legal” issues that I think cost him another shot in the NBA. Well besides Ty Wallace, who i actually thought was a going to be a good NBA player.

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Comment on Where Are They Now: Sindarius Thornwell by zhiv https://213hoops.com/where-are-they-now-sindarius-thornwell/#comment-65699 Mon, 11 Aug 2025 17:29:43 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=21229#comment-65699 Interesting and even semi-optimistic Eeyore response. “Buy-in and chemistry”–trying to parse this. I guess you could say that there was heightened “buy-in” for a few reasons: adding new guys (Dunn, DJJ, KPJ); Norm feasting on the opportunity to start, stepping into PG’s role; feisty underdog fighting against very low projections and expectations (35 wins over/under); holding the fort until Kawhi was able to play; the return of Nic Batum.

Norm and Zu seized their window, while TMann had a tough go. Norm and TMann are gone now, along with others–Amir, KPJ, Mo Bamba, Eubanks, Bones.

The biggest x-factor for the Clips has been flipped. Going from “can they win any games, what will their record be when and if Kawhi comes back” to “what are the Clippers going to be like with a healthy Kawhi in training camp and to start the season?”

Another flip is changed expectations on win total. Coming off a 50-win season, closing on a tear, going out in a hard-fought series against an elite opponent, making high profile roster additions. Sticking to a previous metaphor, going into the season the fort is much more impressive and stronger, and holding/maintaining it is a very different task. Oddsmakers want bettors to bite by projecting 47 wins (in a ridiculously competitive conference), while Clipper fans expect to get to 50 wins again, and folks in Club O are at 55+ and ready to lose their minds in anticipation and excitement (in August).

So where’s the buy-in? Like everything else it starts with Kawhi, I think, who still has everything to prove. Interestingly, I think that this Clipper team will be much better and more resilient if Kawhi is out or goes down, with the additions of Collins and Lopez, and the return of Batum and DJJ. The “Ocean’s 11” approach highlights greater resilience, CP3 in reserve if Harden gets tweaked, Dunn and Bogie playing behind Beal, etc. Even if you boil down the Clippers to 6 or 7 guys they should still be very good and able to win games.

Beal’s buy-in is pretty obvious and striking. I keep coming back to Zu, and I think he’s going to flourish with the spotlight on him now for the first time–Zu’s profile was completely different at this point last year, when he had signed the new deal and we all knew what he did and how good he could be. Harden is right there with him, with so much to look forward to this season.

I guess the idea might be that the Clippers will miss feisty scrappers and underdogs like Dunn and DJJ playing extra hard, while Norm and Zu made the most out of Harden’s bag. I think, however, that Dunn and DJJ are there to attack on demand, and JVG is still a big factor. It’s also hard to envision a let up on a team with Chris Paul coming in as a back up.

Chemistry and vibes should be pretty good, I think. Maybe even great. If anything, some of the guys (Kawhi, CP3) are too competitive, but it seems like a lot of the old hands (Batum & Lopez) should get the flow and play the long game, keep the vibes good, and the level of professionalism seems to be off the charts. Harden stepped into a new role and persona last year, and it’s going to be interesting to see how he fares with a strong backup, less pressure, less responsibility, and his own competitive bar set high.

We all know how it goes–just antsy. I guess I should add that I’ve become an abolish football (CTE) guy, which turns me much more towards the NBA and basketball in August and September than anybody should be. Plenty of work to do, but I love thinking about this new version of the Clippers.

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