Comments on: Clippers vs. Suns Game Recap: Suns Win Battle for West Supremacy, 109-101 https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-suns-win-battle-of-west-supremacy-109-101/ L.A. Clippers News and Analysis Thu, 29 Apr 2021 23:48:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.3.19 By: Goons 1 https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-suns-win-battle-of-west-supremacy-109-101/#comment-17782 Thu, 29 Apr 2021 23:48:04 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=5343#comment-17782 Appreciate it.. Only do it cuz I HATE the damn narrative & the bullshit folks feed ya, like put all the bias aside & watch the tape! Some are just as bad, if not worse, than the mainstream media they constantly bitch about.. Watching games without bias & REwatching games puts things into context

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By: Goons 1 https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-suns-win-battle-of-west-supremacy-109-101/#comment-17781 Thu, 29 Apr 2021 23:44:44 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=5343#comment-17781 A lot of those misreads and half covers are based on Zu constantly covering for lazy perimeter defenders and no wing or guard defenders rotating hard to cover his back…over multiple games.
– yes this happens but Zu also has alot of lazy moments, especially when he’s supposed to make more than 1 rotation per defensive set! He makes one rotation & simply starts ball watching while the ball is still moved around.. There’s a reason why you’re seeing Lue go away from him a lot.. The effort & IQ isn’t there

When Zu rotates over to stop penetration almost every single time down the court, if you watch he is constantly looking around throwing his hands up as his man ends up with a put back dunk or flies in for a lay up. This has been going on most of the season.
– Dude complains ALOT & is always looking for someone to blame for his & others fuck ups! What’s worse is he’s the only guy on the team you see throwing his lil tantrums, on both ends.. Also, you can hear what’s going on, on the court, pretty damn good & you constantly hear ppl directing Zu where to be & what to do.. Both from the coaches & players on the court.. The guy is a big ass baby, plain & simple

Trust has now broken down and he is hesitating..not sure what to do. If he helps he gets burned. If he doesn’t help he gets burned and benched. This falls at the lap of the coach who is not holding the others accountable and blaming Zu, who as a result now looks confused and frustrated. There is much more to this.
– he’s simply not giving full effort & he’s confused cuz he lacks the IQ..

The Clippers look outright lazy trotting back on defense with no energy or intensity….especially PG and Reggie The ball swings a few times, someone runs in for a lay up, Zu challenges multiple guys on defense.. Mann picks his nose on weak side help and a guy 10 minutes from retirement looks like a 15 million dollar player. With Zu anchoring the defense with rim protection, box outs and rebounds at lest you don’t give up 16 Offensive rebounds as well as wide open lay ups in addition to all these other issues.
– I already touched on this + let’s not act as if he’s getting every damn rebound.. Alot of his min resulted in makes for the Suns, thanks to cp hunting Zu.. Clips played much better D without him, sans PG, they just couldn’t finish defensive possessions by rebounding.. That was attributed more from Batum having ZERO rebounds & playing 3 guys under 6-4.. This is where Kawhis size & rebounding HURT!

Even my 10 year old son pointed out…”Dad Zu is frustrated because the weak side guards will not rotate consistently making him look bad.
– Back to my 1st point! You know why the defense has been better with Patt, & why we’ve seen a huge uptick in his min, cuz hes a HIGH IQ player who is constantly rotating! + as slow as he is he’s the best big defender on the perimeter.. This is where Serge has been a huge disappointment & can’t knock Zu here cuz he’s a big ass dude.. He’ll do ok in certain matchups but having Patt being able to switch, rotate &/or recover bodes them better defensively against heavy PNR teams

Kawhi has been covering a lot of this lazy perimeter defense up…with him out everything is exposed…which is a good thing…so guys can be held accountable…and the problems which reside on the perimeter can be repaired. If not, during the playoffs, Serge will become the new Montrez if healthy…and Zu will be anchored to the bench. Hopefully Ty is not as hard headed as Doc.
– Kawhi has been one of the laziest defenders on the team all year! He simply picks his spots & has games where he’s everywhere but let’s not act as if he’s playing at an all nba level every game & every time down the floor.. The guy thats mostly been held accountable against the PNR is Zu, which is why teams are playing him off the court!

Again, this isn’t an anti Zu thing, but the fact that ppl act as if he’s the solution is simply WRONG! He’s part of the problem & the biggest problem against PNRs & that’s ok, that’s not his strong suit.. Folks just need to realize he’s nowhere near the player they make him out to be

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By: sjake https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-suns-win-battle-of-west-supremacy-109-101/#comment-17773 Thu, 29 Apr 2021 20:24:52 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=5343#comment-17773 Good take. I’m not bummed that Clips lost this game. We get so hot from 3 that it can cause lack of focus on the other end. We need to be able to win games when that 3 ball doesn’t fall in the 4th during a playoff game. This team has the defenders to make life miserable on the other team, they just don’t always do it. Hope Ty drills these lessons home.

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By: sjake https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-suns-win-battle-of-west-supremacy-109-101/#comment-17772 Thu, 29 Apr 2021 20:19:24 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=5343#comment-17772 Logged on just to say, that’s some good sh*t Goons. Love the breakdown.

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By: dhpat https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-suns-win-battle-of-west-supremacy-109-101/#comment-17771 Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:41:23 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=5343#comment-17771 We’ll definitely see on Sat., when we face the Jokic. In the postgame, Lue was pretty tight lipped (as much as I could tell under his mask), and he knew that his going small didn’t work with the guys that he used.

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By: TheGreatestShowman https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-suns-win-battle-of-west-supremacy-109-101/#comment-17770 Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:35:33 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=5343#comment-17770 I know the Suns medical staff gets all the love but they’ve also been straight lucky this year with Covid, etc. Booker has missed more games over the past few years than PG. And CP as we know is no spring chicken. They clearly want the top seed and are willing to risk health for it while we’re not.

We’ll see who ends up being the lucky one.

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By: TheGreatestShowman https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-suns-win-battle-of-west-supremacy-109-101/#comment-17769 Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:03:08 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=5343#comment-17769 I think if the #2 seed REALLY mattered to us Kawhi would’ve played. He was after all with the team on the entire road trip plus last night. So I’m not too concerned with his health.

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By: ksihoo https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-suns-win-battle-of-west-supremacy-109-101/#comment-17768 Thu, 29 Apr 2021 15:29:15 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=5343#comment-17768 I am getting concerned if our guys are not back full strenght soon. Playoffs is when the intensity raises extremenly and there is no time to cautiously bring someone back. This on the other hand increases probability of setbacks. Not to mention getting into some rythm and chemistry building. Seems like we are stepping on a very thin ice and health is going to determine how this season ends.

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By: mlslaw1 https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-suns-win-battle-of-west-supremacy-109-101/#comment-17767 Thu, 29 Apr 2021 15:16:01 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=5343#comment-17767 Thots on Kawhi

  1. Appreciate him that much more when we don’t have him available
  2. Health is a legit concern. He was out a bunch of games and then game back vs. Minny. And then out again. Must have experienced a set back in that game so maybe playing vs. Minny was a mistake (that the team won’t admit).
  3. Hard to see him playing any games the rest of the reg season since he couldn’t play in the crucial PHX game. I mean, so miraculously he comes back 2 days later?? The team likely does not make the same Minny mistake again.
  4. After the game, the radio guys were saying how big this next Denver game is (to avoid Lakes), in effect making a loud public plea to the team to get KL back for the next one.
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By: Paul Durant https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-suns-win-battle-of-west-supremacy-109-101/#comment-17766 Thu, 29 Apr 2021 14:31:35 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=5343#comment-17766 A lot of those misreads and half covers are based on Zu constantly covering for lazy perimeter defenders and no wing or guard defenders rotating hard to cover his back…over multiple games. When Zu rotates over to stop penetration almost every single time down the court, if you watch he is constantly looking around throwing his hands up as his man ends up with a put back dunk or flies in for a lay up. This has been going on most of the season. Trust has now broken down and he is hesitating..not sure what to do. If he helps he gets burned. If he doesn’t help he gets burned and benched. This falls at the lap of the coach who is not holding the others accountable and blaming Zu, who as a result now looks confused and frustrated. There is much more to this. The Clippers look outright lazy trotting back on defense with no energy or intensity….especially PG and Reggie The ball swings a few times, someone runs in for a lay up, Zu challenges multiple guys on defense.. Mann picks his nose on weak side help and a guy 10 minutes from retirement looks like a 15 million dollar player. With Zu anchoring the defense with rim protection, box outs and rebounds at lest you don’t give up 16 Offensive rebounds as well as wide open lay ups in addition to all these other issues. Even my 10 year old son pointed out…”Dad Zu is frustrated because the weak side guards will not rotate consistently making him look bad. Kawhi has been covering a lot of this lazy perimeter defense up…with him out everything is exposed…which is a good thing…so guys can be held accountable…and the problems which reside on the perimeter can be repaired. If not, during the playoffs, Serge will become the new Montrez if healthy…and Zu will be anchored to the bench. Hopefully Ty is not as hard headed as Doc.

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