Comments on: Clippers vs. Suns Game Recap: Complete Team Effort https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-complete-team-effort/ L.A. Clippers News and Analysis Thu, 16 Dec 2021 00:02:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.3.19 By: osamu6238 https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-complete-team-effort/#comment-30170 Thu, 16 Dec 2021 00:02:33 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=11508#comment-30170 Here’s my crazy 5-team deal that isn’t going to happen:

Clips trade Bled, Serge, Winslow, 2nd round pick for Kevin Love, Deandre Jordan, and Nunn
Lakers trade Deandre, Nunn, Baze for Serge Ibaka
Cavaliers trade Kevin Love for Gary Harris, Kemba Walker
Knicks trade Kemba Walker, Evan Fournier, 2nd round pick for Eric Bledsoe, Justise Winslow, and Bazemore
Magic trade Gary Harris for Evan Fournier, 2nd round picks from LAC and NYK

Serge gets to stay in LA on a “contender” where he probably would have a bigger role.
Lakers move on from 3 guys that are either out of the rotation or haven’t played yet, and reunite Russ and Serge.
Cavs get off of Kevin Love with an expiring deal in Gary Harris.
Knicks move on from the Kemba situation and get Bledsoe who seems more like a Thibs kind of defensive minded player. I think the Fournier contract is probably one they wish they could take back.
Magic traded Fournier for picks and get him back for picks, haha. He played well for them and is probably having a better season than Harris, only question is if they take back that contract.
Clips get a young cheaper backup PG in Nunn, a true “insurance” level C and all around good guy/reunion story in DeAndre, and Kevin Love has played well this year. He could help or at least rebuild his value and be an asset in another trade.

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By: chogokin https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-complete-team-effort/#comment-30168 Wed, 15 Dec 2021 18:43:18 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=11508#comment-30168 UPSIDE

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By: osamu6238 https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-complete-team-effort/#comment-30166 Wed, 15 Dec 2021 11:47:12 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=11508#comment-30166 Definitely looks like he’s rapidly improving. I still think it would be nice to see him get some minutes over like Justise in these games where the Clips are missing both PG and Nico.

And respect to Andre Ingram, still balling in the G-League, old enough to be most of these guy’s dad.

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By: Oodypkt https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-complete-team-effort/#comment-30165 Wed, 15 Dec 2021 07:29:52 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=11508#comment-30165 Keon is hooping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2s4Iovm4Zc

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By: osamu6238 https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-complete-team-effort/#comment-30164 Wed, 15 Dec 2021 06:50:47 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=11508#comment-30164 I’m not too worried about the Ibaka situation, if only that if he is truly unhappy, I think the FO would work with him to move him to a situation he would be more happy.

As much as I still hold out hope he could be a meaningful contributor, he just hasn’t shown it consistently enough in his time with the Clippers. Even when he was healthy for the first half of last season, he was disappointing. I wouldn’t view it as a huge loss of talent. If anything I found myself more often than not wondering what they could get for him in a trade, but always assumed it was a non-starter given his relationship with Kawhi. If it were him initiating the move on, I think they could still get something in return for Serge, given his track record and expiring contract. I don’t think his contract is a net negative that you’d have to attach something to shed.

What could they get in return for Serge? Problem is this far before the deadline, I think it might be hard to get a deal done. I wouldn’t expect much, but given his salary, seems like would have to bring back something of significance.
Serge and Bledsoe for Dragic and Boucher? Gets Serge back to Toronto where he seemed pretty content. I think Toronto would hold out more for Dragic, and probably the 32+ year olds aren’t really what they’d be looking for in return, but Dragic being out for “personal reasons” I’m not sure is helping his value at all.
Serge for Bruce Brown and Blake Griffin, haha don’t think that works, but there must be a way to get Blake back on the Clips and Serge back with KD and Harden. Bruce Brown would be a nice get and he’s close with TMann.
The Bucks after losing Brook for the foreseeable future could use Serge, but I don’t think they have many expendable salaries to move. Would have to be like George Hill and DiVincenzo or Connaughton, so don’t think they do that.
Serge for James Wiseman? haha, not happening, but Serge probably could help the Warriors

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By: chogokin https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-complete-team-effort/#comment-30163 Wed, 15 Dec 2021 02:11:52 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=11508#comment-30163 ]]> “still technically in his prime”

Can you define what you mean by “prime”? Because to me he hasn’t looked like prime Serge in years – to me, he already looked like he’d lost a step by the Raptors’ championship season 🤔

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By: John Maclean https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-complete-team-effort/#comment-30162 Tue, 14 Dec 2021 23:53:29 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=11508#comment-30162 That was a great win for all the reasons everyone is pointing to. But while watching I couldn’t help wonder if the Suns had too many beers watching NFL at CPs house the day before. They just looked really flat. If it really was a result of what we did then I think we can expect a similar effort tomorrow in Salt Lake. The Serge thing is weird. TL is making the right decision to go with Hart but Serge is an all NBA player who is still technically in his prime. Must sting to have taken what was probably pay cut to try for another ring and have it all play out this way. Maybe he’s asked to be traded.

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By: dhpat https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-complete-team-effort/#comment-30161 Tue, 14 Dec 2021 23:44:12 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=11508#comment-30161 I believe that the NBA requires each team to disclose a player’s injury before each game

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By: Taiji Miyagawa https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-complete-team-effort/#comment-30160 Tue, 14 Dec 2021 23:22:33 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=11508#comment-30160 How are people able to conclusively conclude that Ibaka doesn’t have some sort of unreported physical ailment?

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By: Taiji Miyagawa https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-suns-game-recap-complete-team-effort/#comment-30159 Tue, 14 Dec 2021 23:20:22 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=11508#comment-30159 What I enjoyed the most is the team defense effort pretty much the entire game, though there was some slop in Q3….Bled works good with Hart, as was mentioned in the recent TLTJTP.

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