Comments on: Clippers vs Pacers Player Grades

By: osamu6238

osamu6238 — Wed, 20 Jan 2021 09:27:51 +0000

Yea I can’t think of too many off the top of my head. Guys like George Hill and Derrick Rose are probably valuable enough they get moved for assets. Gorgui Dieng and Robin Lopez I think are potential buyout guys. Drummond or Javale probably gets moved. Trevor Ariza probably a buyout guy.

So if you pass on KPJ, I guess you hope you can get one of those guys. Ariza might be the only interesting option given the need for a SF, although Rose is probably the most talented and the Pistons have been willing to buyout guys last season.

But, KPJ is young enough, he would definitely have more upside long term than anyone on the buyout market. I think if available just for Fi, you do it, and assume you could trade him again at the deadline if necessary. Maybe bring in Jamal in some role with the franchise, since I think he a father figure for KPJ, and any team should welcome Jamal in some role.

By: TheGreatestShowman

TheGreatestShowman — Wed, 20 Jan 2021 05:24:07 +0000

With the play-in, I assume they’ll be less teams looking to jettison vets than usual.

By: Oodypkt

Oodypkt — Wed, 20 Jan 2021 01:05:22 +0000

🙂

By: osamu6238

osamu6238 — Wed, 20 Jan 2021 00:45:48 +0000

Yea, comes down to will KPJ be better than both Fi AND anyone the Clips can get on the buyout market. If just talking Fi, I think would be an easy swap.

Not sure who the buyout candidates are, but I think there will be players better than KPJ with fewer offcourt issues.

By: Lucas Hann

Lucas Hann — Tue, 19 Jan 2021 23:58:43 +0000

I lean no on KPJ mostly for the reason you just outlined.

Even if he’s good/useful as a player, and even if his off-court and locker room issues aren’t going to derail him here like they did in Cleveland, it doesn’t feel like the right move for us to upgrade mid-season.

That Fi money is crucial to LAC’s buyout market plans. Trading him for nothing + the 500k we have gives us all the money we need to sign whatever 2 players we want to round out our roster. We need forward depth. Porter is a 6’4″ scoring guard.

So in addition to the risk of Porter’s presence in the locker room, the opportunity cost of adding depth at other positions is the key.

By: osamu6238

osamu6238 — Tue, 19 Jan 2021 23:21:32 +0000

due to the hard cap, I assume, yes would have to be a trade. I obviously don’t know all the off the court issues which have occurred, but just as a basketball player, I think it feels like a low risk move to swap him for Fi.

Worst case scenario, they also could waive him. But given Clippers are up against the hard cap, there is some risk if KPJ is untradeable. If the Clips end up having to waive him, they could be left with absolutely no space under the hard cap to shop the buyout market

By: TheGreatestShowman

TheGreatestShowman — Tue, 19 Jan 2021 16:11:35 +0000

TWSS

By: TheGreatestShowman

TheGreatestShowman — Tue, 19 Jan 2021 16:11:00 +0000

Believe me, we’ve laughed plenty at them over the years.

By: Oodypkt

Oodypkt — Tue, 19 Jan 2021 14:35:41 +0000

Nice read, as always. 🙂
Really appreciated the play style we show this year.
There is one long article that explain what we try to implement.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaneyoung/2021/01/17/paint-first-spray-it-out-what-makes-the-clippers-new-offense-so-elite/?sh=3afd79c851a1
Simple system can create efficient result with meticulous process.

By: osamu6238

osamu6238 — Tue, 19 Jan 2021 08:29:33 +0000

My first thought was “they’re playing like the Clippers”. Is that making fun of the Lakers? or making fun of the Clippers?

Probably both.