Comments on: Clippers vs Pacers Game Preview https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-pacers-game-preview-3/ L.A. Clippers News and Analysis Wed, 27 Mar 2024 00:39:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.3.20 By: G RAP OLD SCHOOL LIKE YOUR DAD https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-pacers-game-preview-3/#comment-55921 Wed, 27 Mar 2024 00:39:18 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=20180#comment-55921 So I watched Ty lues press conference, and he pretty much sounds like he’s putting it all on the players yet he still believes in the team he says lol..
one thing he said that annoyed me, he was asked if hardens shoulder was effecting harden from being aggressive like he was earlier in the season . Ty Lue basically said he doesn’t know how hardens shoulder is and if it’s effecting his play! Seriously WTF !
How does a coach (supposedly one of the best coaches in the nba) of a NBA team not know how his star players shoulder is doing ?
There is some kinda riff going on with harden and ty Lue for sure ..
also when Lue was asked the other day about harden running out to try and block kawhi’s shot
Ty Lue completely ignored the question and seemed bothered by being asked the question from the reporter.
I know coaches dont get fired this closes to playoffs but if we lose another game or two which is likely
Ty might need to be released of duties no matter how good people think he is as a coach. It’s his job to try anything and everything.

Ok second part is where are we cap wise for next season going into intuit dome? If Paul George leaves for Philly or another team
And we decide to just let harden expire , is there an avenue where we can try atleast putting some different free agents around kawhi? Add a max player and also a mle type player etc? Curious on what the options are ? Is kawhi trade eligible this summer?

I’m not totally packing it in right now but right about now it would be good to know if there’s any re-tooling options/rebuild on the fly options available if this season keeps spiraling outta control.

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By: khyber jones https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-pacers-game-preview-3/#comment-55893 Tue, 26 Mar 2024 05:44:30 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=20180#comment-55893 From a lineup change standpoint, to me there is a clear answer here:

  • Russ + Zu + Mann + Kawhi + PG have to play at least 20 minutes on the floor together (more if it cooks). Zu and Mann need to be empowered and told to look for and take a lot of shots.
  • Harden + Norm + Coffey fill in the gaps in the rotations. There are a lot of minutes to go around with such combos. My preference is for Mann and Zu to be in the 30-32 min range. Russ should have his minutes boosted into the 20s while Harden’s minutes comes down to 30 or under. This doesn’t necessarily mean that Russ starts, but that Harden has a quicker hook. The emphasis has to be on the pace, hustle and defensive intensity being at the right level and we know Russ is just a natural in those areas.
  • I think Theis/Plumlee can play up to 10 minutes in backup #5 minutes. At the center spot, it’s Zu at 30-32 min; Theis/Plumlee at 8-10 min and Russ as a backup #5 for 8 -10 min.

It’s basically an 8.5 man rotation…..and that’s it. Lue’s just not the type of coach that can handle more complexity or more options than this. If you’re gonna play small ball, you ought to have Russ-Mann-Coffey-PG-Kawhi on the floor, with Norm as a possible substitute (except that I hate the way he gets exploited on defense in small lineups). If you’re gonna do small ball, do it right or shut up.

As for a coaching change, in any other major sport: int’l soccer, MLB, NFL, NHL a coaching change would happen without a blink of an eye no matter the coaching pedigree. It’s only in the NBA where coaches with some degree of reputation are treated like sacred cows. I don’t anticipate that Lue will get dismissed, but to say that he isn’t an issue here wouldn’t be accurate.

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By: Josh Smith https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-pacers-game-preview-3/#comment-55890 Tue, 26 Mar 2024 05:39:42 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=20180#comment-55890 I tried to boo loud enough for the team to hear but no other fans joined in. Too busy with loud music, free T-shirts etc. I don’t recall leaving a Clippers game in my last 14 years of season tickets as angry as I did tonight.

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By: chogokin https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-pacers-game-preview-3/#comment-55889 Tue, 26 Mar 2024 05:36:07 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=20180#comment-55889 By “attitude adjustment,” do you mean “major FO, coaching, and roster overhaul”? Cuz that’s all I’m hearing.

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By: chogokin https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-pacers-game-preview-3/#comment-55888 Tue, 26 Mar 2024 05:34:12 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=20180#comment-55888 “Harden is the better player in playoff settings”

…I’m not even sure about this, to be frank. Playoff Harden is pretty damn underwhelming for his career.

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By: khyber jones https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-pacers-game-preview-3/#comment-55887 Tue, 26 Mar 2024 05:31:46 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=20180#comment-55887 We do have segments of these games where we play well. It’s usually with Zu and/or Terance on the floor. The examples of the team being a net plus or close to it with Zu on the floor vs off the floor are too numerous to count (yesterday v Philly was a prime example).

In Q2 tonight, Terance left the game for Harden up +5. He returned with the Clips up +1. Nembhard and Halliburton got loose for shots and the lead turned to -5. Then, Terance got an offensive rebound, hit a 3, took another wide open 3 that just missed softly but Zu was in a position to rebound and get the putback. Just like that we were in the lead again. But then we go away from Terance and Zu as high usage/high touch players when we really should’ve doubled down and exploited them. If Russ had been on the court with both players, I think we would’ve had a much more competitive game. The deficit was only -3 at the half.

In Q3, neither Zu nor Terance got any quality touches; both left the game 4 mins in due to Myles Turner going off with some help from Siakam/Walker and the Clips went on to lose the quarter by -5 despite Russ’ best efforts to keep things afloat. Then Lue brings Zu back with both Russ and PJ Tucker on the court and it made no sense.

We need Zu and Mann to be higher touch/higher usage players with 213 + the point guards (Harden/Russ) getting them touches and playing at the right pace for them to be more involved. The answer can’t be more frivolous lineups with PJ Tucker or going super small when the other team has Turner and Siakam on the floor ready to pounce. Makes no sense.

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By: WhyNotTyler https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-pacers-game-preview-3/#comment-55882 Tue, 26 Mar 2024 05:19:59 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=20180#comment-55882 This

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By: khyber jones https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-pacers-game-preview-3/#comment-55880 Tue, 26 Mar 2024 05:19:03 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=20180#comment-55880 Harden is a better player than Russ and more effective when his game is on, but we’re only going to get that in spurts, not for a full game. We’ve played him too many minutes and the bill has come due. He’s killing the pace, isn’t shooting the 3 ball well, gets exploited as both a help and primary defender against offenses that emphasize spacing. Harden is the better player in playoff settings but in the 11 games we have left, Russ looks to be the better fit to get some wins to stay in the top 6. Russ and Zu on the court is actually a better duo statistically than Harden + Zu. I just get tired of Lue always replacing guys like Zu and T-Mann instead of finding the combos that work best with them. He’s never really varied in his small ball tendencies and the lineups he uses.

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By: Lawler Clippers https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-pacers-game-preview-3/#comment-55879 Tue, 26 Mar 2024 05:15:30 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=20180#comment-55879 I seriously don’t see this team winning another game the rest of the season.

If they do fall into the play in, I’m hoping they miss out in the playoffs. An attitude adjustment has to be made in the offseason starting with 213. The team was more enjoyable before they got here.

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By: WhyNotTyler https://213hoops.com/clippers-vs-pacers-game-preview-3/#comment-55874 Tue, 26 Mar 2024 05:01:05 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=20180#comment-55874 Well, he was good. He just wasn’t great. Some bad turnovers and not really locked in on D. Can’t fault him though: I wouldn’t enjoy giving it my all risking injury either when seeing what PG and Harden play most of the time. Then having to carry second units as the lone star when they rest. And doing so in a game where PJ and Norm can’t defend anything and Coffey was a no-show, too. Pointless

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