Comments on: Clippers Drop Fifth Game in a Row, Fall to Grizz 105-101 https://213hoops.com/clippers-drop-fourth-game-in-a-row-fall-to-grizz-105-101/ L.A. Clippers News and Analysis Tue, 14 Nov 2023 16:24:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.3.19 By: jbugs https://213hoops.com/clippers-drop-fourth-game-in-a-row-fall-to-grizz-105-101/#comment-50604 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 16:24:32 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=19475#comment-50604 Russ and Zu were fine before the Harden trade when we had Batum and RoCo. Those guys made up for Russ’s deficiencies on defense and provided a good amount of spacing. Batum’s passing was also huge for us. Without those guys, Zu and Russ hurt our spacing and ball movement too much to have them play with the starters.

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By: Sweet Lou https://213hoops.com/clippers-drop-fourth-game-in-a-row-fall-to-grizz-105-101/#comment-50601 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 14:22:25 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=19475#comment-50601 1) Russ to bench , asap. Stevie Wonder could see that. He can wrack the opposing 2nd unit. has been mentioned over and over again. Russ need to swallow his pride and agree to this. As long as our stubborn coach doesn’t enforce this , not much would change.

2) Norm gotta go , he can be useful for many teams , his contract isnt great so the FO will need to get create here to get us some SIZE.

3) PJ should be out of the rotation , another bad contract – came in 3 years too late.

4) We have to use Harden as a facilitator. Kawhi and George and the main scorers , thing is Harden needs someone to do the pick n roll with. We don’t have anyone.

The deal was a headscratcher for me to begin with , but man this looks bad , and there are no positive signs it is going to work just you don’t flip a lion to a dove. lion is a lion you cant change these players at this stage.

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By: Dave Rosa https://213hoops.com/clippers-drop-fourth-game-in-a-row-fall-to-grizz-105-101/#comment-50600 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:48:55 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=19475#comment-50600 Kobe Brown to the G-league. The Clippers sent their #1 pick to the G-league. Insane. The kid can play. Play him. This is infuriating.

Bones is super glued to the bench. That’s insane.

How many bad ideas can this FO come up with? It seems endless.

Watching Tucker in the last playoffs showed him to be finished. His time has passed. Lue has found his latest version of Marcus Morris. Old, slow, past his expiration date.

The first 5 games were nice to watch. Now it’s a hot mess.

Trading Zu isn’t going to change anything. The problem starts with Lue.

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By: CrossRoads https://213hoops.com/clippers-drop-fourth-game-in-a-row-fall-to-grizz-105-101/#comment-50599 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:46:32 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=19475#comment-50599 And I thought this was going to be a win against a depleted cellar dwelling Grizz.

Manpower wise Clips were overwhelmingly superior.

This is not excusable, with the star power of the Clips. Their chef was the problem, again.

1, Live and die by the 3. Vast majority continue to be drive and kick, for rainbow shots. Rinse and repeat. Game after game, low % shots. Dating back to seasons ago.

2, Clips don’t have the Dubs’ marksmanship. Huge skill drop. By a wide margin.

3, This go to offense has been a proven failure, and not sustainable. Hard to argue with results.

And yet the Lue still prefers this. Like MM last year, Doc to Trez. And this should continue to persist this entire season given his track record, unless he wants to change, to progress / improve.

4, In short, Kerr’s trying hard, second rate copycat.

5, And preference to small ball too, dating back to Wall, Jackson, etc last season while benching Roco, and limiting Mann.

6, Jenkins coached the Grizz well despite star power handicap with his drive and cuts and slip plays, majority of the game, and foul bating. He outwitted Lue with team ball, motion offense.

Lue can learn the motion offense from Jenkins to maximize the star power he has, motion offense, rather than one on one or kick out 3s.

What happened to cuts, cuts and more cuts as promoted by Lue beginning of the season ? Good for the 1st game only ? : He should have qualified this to temper expectations to this team.

7, No rebounds, no rings. Or just a simple win.

8, TOs has been a recurrent issue from last season to this one.

9, If not Craig, offer Kenny Atkinson the head coaching job now. This can still be salvaged. Ballmer, and not Frank, needs to draw the line.

10, Lue has perhaps reached the point of diminishing returns as Clips head coach.

He can HC other NBA teams. Swap Ime Udoka with Ty is also fine with me, as Houston so longed for Lue earlier.

11, I can feel for Kawhi, who had Pop, Nurse as his HCs before. Only to be burdened with Doc and Lue with the Clips.

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By: mlslaw1 https://213hoops.com/clippers-drop-fourth-game-in-a-row-fall-to-grizz-105-101/#comment-50598 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:34:08 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=19475#comment-50598 The same could be said for picking up Russ — last yr and now.

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By: WhyNotTyler https://213hoops.com/clippers-drop-fourth-game-in-a-row-fall-to-grizz-105-101/#comment-50597 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:19:51 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=19475#comment-50597 Both Russ and Zu have shown that they can play with the starters. Both have proven that they help the defense and the rebounding. Both are willing to do the dirty work. There’s about two dozen reasons why we shouldn’t adjust to Harden but Harden to the team. Start Mann next to Russ. Oops, all of a sudden they play with energy. All of a sudden they look like a team. All of a sudden they don’t need hot shooting to have a chance to win, they win some games on defense and others on both ends. Harden will always hurt the defense, even IF (after lots of extra Ls) he improves the offense.

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By: chogokin https://213hoops.com/clippers-drop-fourth-game-in-a-row-fall-to-grizz-105-101/#comment-50596 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 08:44:58 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=19475#comment-50596 For everyone here (rightfully) calling for Kobe to get more time at PJ’s expense, it looks like the FO sent Kobe down to the G League today. I hate this FO and this coaching staff so much.

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By: khyber jones https://213hoops.com/clippers-drop-fourth-game-in-a-row-fall-to-grizz-105-101/#comment-50595 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 08:32:10 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=19475#comment-50595 I have low expectations for the Denver game. I think we’ll probably play a good quarter and a half and then get blown off the court because PJ Tucker will be inserted as the small ball 5 and he’ll get pummeled, rack up fouls, foul a couple of 3 pt attempts, put the team in the penalty and behind the 8 ball in the 2nd half.

What I’m really looking for is to see how Kawhi plays. Is he willing to step things up to play like an anchor 2 way star vs the game’s best player? That will tell me about his willingness to step up for this team and franchise.

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By: chogokin https://213hoops.com/clippers-drop-fourth-game-in-a-row-fall-to-grizz-105-101/#comment-50594 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 06:17:57 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=19475#comment-50594 Also worth pointing out that Ty “I need more PGs” Lue and 213 having too much say in personnel decisions is also probably what led to us signing washed up Wall instead of retaining Hart.

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By: khyber jones https://213hoops.com/clippers-drop-fourth-game-in-a-row-fall-to-grizz-105-101/#comment-50593 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 06:03:49 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=19475#comment-50593 The F.O. has no conviction or even actual power to impose its will on Ty Lue when they aren’t in alignment. That leads to dysfunctionality. We didn’t have a backup center for half the season last year because the FO didn’t think it had the power to make such a deal until the team’s record was at a sufficiently bad crisis point to warrant some moves.

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