Comments on: 213 Hoops 2022 Offseason Roundtable: Nic Batum Signing https://213hoops.com/213-hoops-2022-offseason-roundtable-nic-batum-signing/ L.A. Clippers News and Analysis Thu, 28 Jul 2022 09:33:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.3.19 By: Lucas Hann https://213hoops.com/213-hoops-2022-offseason-roundtable-nic-batum-signing/#comment-34406 Thu, 28 Jul 2022 09:33:08 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=14103#comment-34406 The salary cap creates artificial incentives here. In reality, an owner owes a star *more* money than his max contract in terms of how much revenue he’s bringing in and how much value he’s adding to the franchise. In practice, however, if a star taking a pay cut helps a team be below the tax and use the non-taxpayer MLE instead of the taxpayer MLE, it can be a big difference in adding that key veteran role player to try and win a title (this year, appx 10.5M vs 6.5M).

I agree that no player “owes” it to any team, owner, or fanbase, but I do think there is a very legitimate tradeoff there–especially if it’s very clear in the off-season that the star is taking the cut that there is a meaningful shift in championship odds (which, if the gamble pays off, can yield exponential returns in terms of endorsements). I remember when CP3 and Blake recruited Kevin Durant, the Clippers didn’t have a max slot and Blake and CP had 1 year left on their deals before their opt outs. In the meeting, they told KD that if he took the slight paycut to sign with LAC (on a 1+1 deal where his non-bird rights would have been enough for a full max after 1 season), then they would each take paycuts when they re-signed the next year so he could get a full long-term max.

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By: Lucas Hann https://213hoops.com/213-hoops-2022-offseason-roundtable-nic-batum-signing/#comment-34404 Thu, 28 Jul 2022 09:21:27 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=14103#comment-34404 how Batum started the LAC reclamation trend and gave them ammo for other recruitments is definitely an underrated point

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By: Robert Flom https://213hoops.com/213-hoops-2022-offseason-roundtable-nic-batum-signing/#comment-34390 Thu, 28 Jul 2022 01:02:47 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=14103#comment-34390 Yep I’m just excited to watch Kawhi again

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By: Robert Flom https://213hoops.com/213-hoops-2022-offseason-roundtable-nic-batum-signing/#comment-34389 Thu, 28 Jul 2022 01:02:32 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=14103#comment-34389 Yeah players are wealthy, but they do not owe it to teams and ownerships to give back money

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By: chogokin https://213hoops.com/213-hoops-2022-offseason-roundtable-nic-batum-signing/#comment-34388 Thu, 28 Jul 2022 00:20:46 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=14103#comment-34388 They did give it back. Doesn’t change the fact that they had the gall to apply for it in the first place. Plus I’m guessing they wouldn’t have returned it if it hadn’t been reported on and there wasn’t an outpouring of criticism.

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By: jbugs https://213hoops.com/213-hoops-2022-offseason-roundtable-nic-batum-signing/#comment-34387 Wed, 27 Jul 2022 23:45:39 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=14103#comment-34387 I think they gave it back.

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By: chogokin https://213hoops.com/213-hoops-2022-offseason-roundtable-nic-batum-signing/#comment-34385 Wed, 27 Jul 2022 23:24:58 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=14103#comment-34385 It’s totally understandable as to why fans want players to take less money. But then we see shit like the Lakers ownership applying for and getting a PPP/COVID “small business” loan…

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By: chogokin https://213hoops.com/213-hoops-2022-offseason-roundtable-nic-batum-signing/#comment-34384 Wed, 27 Jul 2022 23:23:21 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=14103#comment-34384 So would I. Unfortunately I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m just not quite talented enough in a highly valuable/marketable skill to be considered among the top 450 of the approximately 5ish billion adults in the world at said skill.

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By: dhpat https://213hoops.com/213-hoops-2022-offseason-roundtable-nic-batum-signing/#comment-34383 Wed, 27 Jul 2022 22:07:49 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=14103#comment-34383 I am really looking forward to seeing a healthy Kawhi play with Nic and the rest of our guys. Shutting down passing lanes, deflections, good rebounding and all the little things to win.

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By: lying dog-faced pony soldier https://213hoops.com/213-hoops-2022-offseason-roundtable-nic-batum-signing/#comment-34380 Wed, 27 Jul 2022 20:09:30 +0000 https://213hoops.com/?p=14103#comment-34380 I’d love to be an oppressed NBA millionaire serf.

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